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01PhilErup
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Veröffentlicht am Mon, Aug 06, 2007 16:37

Why is it that so many self proclaimed, "independent women," have mistakenly labeled themselves independent when the adjectives arrogant and selfish would much more accurately reflect who they are and what they are about! I am certain that this will ruffle some hens' feathers but quite frankly my dear, I don't give a damn! .......... Kind of arrogant of me ...... hmmmmm, I must be INDEPENDENT!!!


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Veröffentlicht am Wed, Aug 15, 2007 14:47

Thank you TTT,Suburbansweetheart, Maneater and Junie. I appreciated your comments. Thanks again!


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Veröffentlicht am Wed, Aug 15, 2007 12:36

Well Phil, I did not take offense. When anyone says "all you women" or "most women" I always see myself as the exception. Usually because I have never screwed anyone for money, never cheated, and would be happy as hell if some man wanted to support me. So buck up there. I (me personally) was just playing with you. You are a tough guy, if I can take your blog, you can take my teasing. Like sunset said, come to Clowntown!! That's where the Hooligans play.


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Veröffentlicht am Wed, Aug 15, 2007 05:34

Phil....I'll make you a deal.....come over and join the Life Clowns and we will laugh about all this together....and Smiley can teach you how to write that blog so no one gets offended.....deal?


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Veröffentlicht am Wed, Aug 15, 2007 01:27

Dear Phil I take on what you say,and as you say you know how it is to struggle. And the prejudice against single parents no matter what the circumstances are. But it would have helped if you said what behaviour had caused your irk. I have worked with both men and woman and have seen all behaviours in both. I do like old fashioned consideration adn curtesy and it can come in many disguises including being rough and challenging. But I have seen selfishness and nastiness on both sides. Men will phsyically and sexually hurt women and women will take, not give and hurt by attcking the person and isolating, causing groups and creating inuendo and gossip. I know where you were trying to cpome from. And you did say "some" but without specifics it went tits up. I also think you still hold on to an old fashioned value of women which while nice never existed in our lives. Women ahd to be nice and calm and charming and graceful not matter what the situation or how they were being treated. Now women wont do that and it does cause women to jump down the throat of anyone who suggests they should be these "Sweet Little Things" Over reaction - maybe - but it comes on strong feelings of women's experience of lifeand the prejudices against them every day. It also comes from assumtions of women that need to be contested. I do not expct anything of a man I only expect him to be ahuman being. I do like taditional ideals (andthey are ideals) of how a man should be, but I always know I have a faulty human being in front of me. but I do expect certain things. No violecne no aggression no manipulation game and no stupid out of touch ideas of what a woman should be like. Know what you were trying to say. Wish you could have been more specific ie: Being independent but still expecting the man to spend all his money, Being independent but not considering anyone else, Being independent and expecting respect but dressing down any man who dares to show co...


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Veröffentlicht am Mon, Aug 13, 2007 13:17

I am sooo sorry if any of my comments have made any of you, "burst into tears." I guess because some of you think that I have not experienced single parenthood or working multiple jobs to make ends meet while trying to further my education, that I have no right to make the comments I have made. I didn't realize that any certain set of criteria existed that I must meet before posting a blog. I have in fact raised a child by myself with absolutely no help from her other parent, worked multiple jobs and continued my education. Having done so I can appreciate what it takes to do it and I respect each and every one of you who have also met these challenges. Perhaps this is part of the reason that I find it to be such BS when someone tries to mask their arrogance and selfishness behind the guise of, "independence," and further I find it to be BS when you people want to attack my character and call me names because of the comments I have made about this! Having met the challenges I have encountered in life however does not entitle me to condemn those of you who make comments on these blogs that I personally disagree with or find distasteful. I think that several of you who have responded to my comments however need to get over your "martyr syndrome" and channel that energy into something more productive. Perhaps you should consider some professional counseling. You can look under, "mental health," in the Yellow Pages. Best of luck!


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Veröffentlicht am Mon, Aug 13, 2007 10:46

Re: You know what drives me nuts? When you are having a discussion and they say, I am not going to argue with you about it! GRRR. It's a discussion, it may be heated but it is not a fight or an argument. Geeze. loves2rde write: You know what I hate that guys do, in reference to being subordinate? When you have a differing point of view, and they keep insisting that you are "not listening" Ugghh! Those guys don't believe a woman can think on her own, or should have the right to have a dissenting opinion.



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Veröffentlicht am Sun, Aug 12, 2007 16:11

Phil You made a"Generalisation" without saying what specific situation or behaviour led to you feeling hard done by. And don't expect not to ruffle a few tail feathers. These woman not only remember having to go it alone and be self sufficient and independent for themselves, They remember having to be self sufficient, indepndent and doing everything with no other help for their families and children too. Its a long hard road. working all day and probably two or three jobs, sorting out the home and getting the kids right. Then after they are sent to bed having time to yourself to just catch up on a soap or burst into tears. Go to bed then start again. So don't you carelessly start saying anything about independent women. When a man is idependent there's just him and the bike. When a woman is independent she also has her family to support and think of too. You should have helped by saying what behaviour had annoyed you. Instead you stirred up a vipers nest of Hot Women who have worked too hard to be insulted by you. Junie


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Veröffentlicht am Sun, Aug 12, 2007 15:17

Here's some venom for ya Phil. The one who needs to admit they have a problem is YOU. YOU need to recognize and admit that YOU are an asshole.

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Veröffentlicht am Sun, Aug 12, 2007 13:49

Re: Phil darlin, did you get Moonpie to write this for you?? Say it ain't so Philly!! 01PhilErup write: Ladies, ladies! The venom that some of you are spewing! Perhaps those of you responding with personal attacks recognized yourselves in my blog! Recognizing this in yourself is a big step forward for you! Now, do ya need a hug, or what?



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Veröffentlicht am Sun, Aug 12, 2007 13:36

Re: Phil, the manure pit you are standing in will be difficult to get out if. Sometimes people respond here out of anger and hurt coming from their personal lives, like you.. not out of arrogance. Just wondering how many here you want to alienate.In the future, when you are loosing out from making an over generalized, rather ignorant comment; it is better to apologize than be stubborn/stupid and wade into that pit up to your neck. Life is probably going to be real lonely for you until you learn to develop a better knack with your vernacular with women. 01PhilErup write: Ladies, ladies! The venom that some of you are spewing! Perhaps those of you responding with personal attacks recognized yourselves in my blog! Recognizing this in yourself is a big step forward for you! Now, do ya need a hug, or what?



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Veröffentlicht am Sun, Aug 12, 2007 08:35

You ladies crack me up! Personally insulted were you? How pathetic of you! I have made public an observation of several people I have known and in your minds I have insulted your entire gender. I personally prefer a woman who uses her intellect to think with rather than her hormones or lack thereof!


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Veröffentlicht am Sat, Aug 11, 2007 15:55

good call teach lol


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Veröffentlicht am Sat, Aug 11, 2007 15:51

To add insult to injury, Dr.Phil had the nerve to view my profile. Ehhhhhhhhhh.... I am NOT your type. Actually,is anyone? Then again, on second thought, I think I found the perfect girl for ya!

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Veröffentlicht am Sat, Aug 11, 2007 14:14

Phil Phil Phil what ever are we to do with you, never ever ever lump all women together. Someone done you wrong oh so sorry, you ain't in the boat alone but to lump all together not nice.


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Veröffentlicht am Sat, Aug 11, 2007 13:11

Amen


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Veröffentlicht am Sat, Aug 11, 2007 12:16

Poor Phil, he was a decent sort. He worked, paid his bills, his taxes, mowed his lawn. Rode his bike, changed his oil on time, changed his tires when needed. Never bothered anyone. But one day, he made the grievous error all men make at some point in their lives. He unwittingly insulted The Women. The Sisterhood. The Babes of all ages and backgrounds. En mass. In public. There was no where to run, to hide. No way to save himself. His fellow men were all out of town. He was alone. He turned, the pall of The Women was upon him like a funeral shroud. He crouched, raising his arms in defense as though their responses were razors slicing his flesh. The scream died in what was left of his addled brain. What did I do??? What did I say??? What did I do??? Wha............ RIP Phil.


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Veröffentlicht am Sat, Aug 11, 2007 09:28


01PhilErup write: I must say though, I thoroughly enjoyed your responses! reply: Your not even worth getting upset over. Never mind I am really hot and mad I have always tried to stay away from this stuff but you are the 1) lowest bag of crap 2) cruel 3) scum bum 4) SON OF A B-TCH These ladies and myself included have worked an honest and hard life to get away from A$$HOLES like you, or just because it is our life style I myself don't think my response was HUMOROUS I worked hard to get to this point to be a nurse SO F--K YOU


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Veröffentlicht am Sat, Aug 11, 2007 05:38

Re: Give the man a break we all need to vent sometimes and Hey I like DR. Phil... symbiotic write: You are one sick attention seeking MF'er. Venting your frustration? That is such bullshit. Go tell it to your Therapist. Go have a temper tantrum somewhere else. Who the hell do you think you are to make some sorta circus act outta of us "INDEPENDENT WOMEN" We are not here for your entertainment or enjoyment. However,it is very entertaining and enjoyable to see your arrogant and selfish,hiding behind your disguise pretending to be Dr.Phil,and making a bigger asshole outta yourself,than ya did the first time around.



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Veröffentlicht am Sat, Aug 11, 2007 05:33

By stander maybe, but innocent, I think not. See you soon. Your beer is ready sir, would you like that in a cozy or straigh up?


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